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I am not comparing the United States with any of these regimes. I am pointing out the extremes so that we may stay as far away from the statist model as possible. For over a century, we have been moving closer to statism and farther away from liberty.

And that is a cause for concern.

An attempt to explain liberty to my statist friends.

Let me try to summarize, for my statist friends, why government “solutions” are immoral: The government can not accomplish any goal, no matter how well intentioned, without using force to make people act in a way they would otherwise not act.

Even if you completely disagree with libertarian thought, I hope you can at least understand from where we are coming. We are not heartless bastards that want to put grandma on the street. We understand that taking care of grandma is our job as feeling and caring individuals, not the job of a faceless, unfeeling and uncaring agent of the state – a bureaucrat.

The “good” of the collective, by necessity, always makes the interest of the individual subservient to that of the collective. When the individual is subservient to the collective, individuals are sacrificed when they disagree with the collective.

From Stalin’s Soviet Union, to Hitler’s Nazi Germany, to Mao’s China to Mussolini’s Fascist Italy – when the state is more important than individuals, individuals are killed. Always.

I am not comparing the United States with any of these regimes. I am pointing out the extremes so that we may stay as far away from the statist model as possible. For over a century, we have been moving closer to statism and farther away from liberty.

And that is a cause for concern.

Murfreesboro LOTR Celebrates St. Patrick’s Day!

Liberty On The Rocks St. Patty’s Day Bash in Murfreesboro!

The Boulevard Bar & Grill
1202 E Main St
Murfreesboro, TN 37130

Thursday March 17th 2011 6pm-9pm

Liberty Lovers! After a small Hiatus and Bobby McKee’s shutting down, Liberty On The Rocks is back in business with a new meeting location at The Boulevard Bar & Grille by MTSU campus just in time for St. Patty’s day!! :) The Boulevard Bar & Grille’s specials fort the night will be $3 Guinness, $5 Irish Car bombs, $2 Domestic bottles, and $5 medium pizzas! We’ll also be discussing current events at the county, state, federal and international levels and what to do next as we continue to become more organized between now and the 2012 elections. Please bring a friend or two as we are a “A splendid mix of grass roots activism, libations, and good conversation. We are a group of citizens who endeavor to limit the reach of government into our personal lives, to ensure life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Join us for a meeting of the minds to discuss ways we can further our cause of liberty.”

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The economy- cone of collision / LOTR-CS @ D’Vine Wines

You’re invited to join us as we celebrate Liberty and fellowship with other liberty lovers on March 8th, 6:00pm to 8pm at D’Vine Wines Winery (934 Manitou Ave., Suite 108, Manitou Springs, CO) enjoying Tavern Style Politics and Activism in the Tradition of our Founding Fathers.

Jeff Wright will be our guest speaker whose topic is: The economy- cone of collision. You’ll hear some hard facts on the economy and where we really are and where we’re heading.

Please bring some cheese and crackers or a sweet dessert to go with the fine wines.

Upcoming …LOTR Events:

March 22nd: 5:30pm @ The Dublin House, Kim Green -citizen activism and more…

April 12th: … debate topic to TBD

Liberty on the Rocks is today’s gathering place where you can become acquainted with others who believe in freedom and where we can share our thoughts and ideas on ways to restore liberty in America. We are a non-partisan, non-profit, social organization that seeks to unite individuals, regardless of political affiliation, who desire liberty. With the goal of facilitating networks, friendships and intelligent conversation.

Liberty on the Rocks seeks to initiate the energy and dialogue necessary to move America from the grassroots up, toward the constitutional principles of freedom used to found this nation.

For more info, contact: David Kelly: david@libertyontherocks.org 719.237.4598

Visit: http://www.libertyontherocks.com/

Disclaimer: Speakers/Guests/Articles do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of Colorado Springs Liberty On The Rocks, and Colorado Springs LOTR does not endorse or support any candidate in any election.

The Lion of Liberty

By David L. Kelly
16 February 2011

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

Nearly all of us, who have even a limited knowledge of the American Revolution, know the above lines, the last few lines of Patrick Henry’s famous speech. Those words ended a speech that only a fire-eater orator such as Henry could deliver, with passion and force, gripping the minds and hearts of those at the House of Burgesses on March 23, 1775.Patrick Henry

It is rarely shared, unless you seek out what preceded those closing lines; whose impact that day spoke volumes to all Americans who wanted to live free. Patrick Henry had every intention to light up the room in front of his fellow Virginian representatives that day in the Saint John’s Church in Richmond, Virginia. Henry knew that the time had arrived to say his piece, even if some considered his views as a bit radical, as evidenced early on into his speech:

I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve. This is no time for ceremony. The questing before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery….

Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the Majesty of Heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

With this Patrick had set the stage and spoke freely as he believed it was his God-given unalienable right to do so and his right as well to prepare his colleagues to hear nothing but the whole truth.

We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?…For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

The truth was the British were showing force and would do all they could to quell the rebellion beginning in the American colonies. Henry knew that, and made sure that his fellow Virginians understood what lurked behind the smiles of the British ministry who had heard their previous petitions. He continued:

Ask yourselves how this gracious reception of our petition comports with those warlike preparations which cover our waters and darken our land. Are fleets and armies necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Have we shown ourselves so unwilling to be reconciled that force must be called in to win back our love? Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which kings resort.

Patrick went on and tallied up all that had built up to this day, a day of reckoning. He passionately sold his views and tore at his comrades hearts to hear the ugly truth and know that they had but one truthful option if they wanted to be freemen.

There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free—if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained—we must fight!

I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of hosts is all that is left us!

Knowing that the colonies were not prepared for a war with the mighty British Empire’s seasoned military; Henry readied his listeners for his powerful and famous closing lines by first painting an image of that shining light of liberty that would guide the Americans to victory.

The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us….The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave….There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable—and let it come!

From here Patrick soon closes his now famous speech with the words, give me liberty or give me death!

What a great and inspiring speech. Don’t you wish men like Patrick Henry represented you as we find ourselves today with a government full of selfish hubris-infected politicians?

Where are the Patrick Henry’s of today?


More on Patrick Henry:

  • Mayer, Henry. A Son of Thunder: Patrick Henry and the American Republic. New York: F. Watts, 1986.
  • Meade, Robert D. Patrick Henry. Philadelphia, PA: Lippincott, 1957–1969.
  • Sabin, Louis. Patrick Henry: Voice of the American Revolution. Mahwah, NJ: Troll Associates, 1982.
  • Tyler, Moses Coit. Patrick Henry. New York: Houghton, Mifflin, 1887. Reprint, New York: Chelsea House, 1980.
  • Vaughan, David J. Give Me Liberty: The Uncompromising Statesmanship of Patrick Henry. Nashville, TN: Cumberland House Pub., 1997.

Debate: The 14th & ObamaCare… unconstitutional ?

Please join us as we gather in the name of Liberty on February 8th, 5:30pm – 7:30pm at the Dublin House (1850 Dominion Way, Colo Spgs.) enjoying Tavern Style Politics and Activism in the Tradition of our Founding Fathers.

Join us in an open debate / discussion  on the 14th Amendment, specifically the movement by several states to alter the citizenship clause thereby eliminating birthright citizenship.  Plus we will discuss and debate the new Federal Judge ruling that ObamaCare is unconstitutional. After the debate, let’s socialize and enjoy the company of fellow liberty lovers.

Upcoming Events:

Feb. 22, 2011: Celebrate George Washington’s Birthday ! An honest discussion about one of our nation’s most famous founders.  Plus cake, contests, trivia and more…!

March 8th, 2011TBD… Wine tasting?

Liberty on the Rocks is today’s gathering place where you can become acquainted with others who believe in freedom and where we can share our thoughts and ideas on ways to restore liberty in America. We are a non-partisan, non-profit, social organization that seeks to unite individuals, regardless of political affiliation, who desire liberty. With the goal of facilitating networks, friendships and intelligent conversation.

Liberty on the Rocks seeks to initiate the energy and dialogue necessary to move America from the grassroots up, toward the constitutional principles of freedom used to found this nation.

For more info, contact: David Kelly: david@libertyontherocks.org 719.237.4598

Visit: http://www.libertyontherocks.com/

Disclaimer: Speakers/Guests/Articles do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of Colorado Springs Liberty On The Rocks, and Colorado Springs LOTR does not endorse or support any candidate in any election.

The Mr. Hydes of Jekyll Island… Liberty on the Rocks

Please join us as we gather in the name of Liberty on January 25th, 5:30pm – 7:30pm at the Dublin House (1850 Dominion Way, Colo Spgs.) enjoying Tavern Style Politics and Activism in the Tradition of our Founding Fathers.

Our guest speaker: Bob Adelmann will present: “Who are the Mr. Hydes of Jekyll Island?”, a presentation on the History of the Federal Reserve. Bob graduated from Cornell University with two degrees, including a Masters of Business Administration with a major in Economics and Finance. He has an extensive background with the John Birch Society, is active in the freedom fight / liberty movement and writes regularly for the New American Magazine.

You don’t want to miss this excellent presentation and opportunity to discuss this topic and more with fellow liberty lovers.

We will have free copies of Independence Institute’s: Citizens Budget – Road Map for Sustainable Government in Colorado, booklets (while supplies last). As well as new supporting LOTR membership packages and more.

Upcoming Events:

Feb. 8th: Debating the 14th Amendment

Feb. 22, 2011: Celebrate George Washington’s Birthday ! An honest discussion about one of our nation’s most famous founders.

Liberty on the Rocks is today’s gathering place where you can become acquainted with others who believe in freedom and where we can share our thoughts and ideas on ways to restore liberty in America. We are a non-partisan, non-profit, social organization that seeks to unite individuals, regardless of political affiliation, who desire liberty. With the goal of facilitating networks, friendships and intelligent conversation.

Liberty on the Rocks seeks to initiate the energy and dialogue necessary to move America from the grassroots up, toward the constitutional principles of freedom used to found this nation.

For more info, contact: David Kelly: david@libertyontherocks.org 719.237.4598

Visit: http://www.libertyontherocks.com/

Disclaimer: Speakers/Guests/Articles do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of Colorado Springs Liberty On The Rocks, and Colorado Springs LOTR does not endorse or support any candidate in any election.

See "Marijuana growers create smokescreen for trafficking ring.")

As "law-and-order" types revel in their pointless little "victory," I ask small-government types to consider:

How much tax money was spent on this?
Where else could that money have been spent?
What could you have done with your share of that money?
How much money could the state make by taxing the sale of marijuana?

It is hypocritical to profess a belief in individual liberty, limited government and personal responsibility and at the same time advocate the use of government resources - and force - to stop marijuana growers.

The war against marijuana is based on the belief that individuals should not have liberty, that big government is necessary to impose public policy for the "common good" and that people are too stupid to be personally responsible.

Is there any other conclusion to be drawn except that a belief in criminalizing marijuana is antithetical to the liberty movement?

If not, please help me understand.

The war on reefer vs. the liberty movement.

According to the Denver Post, “[s]tate law enforcement officials . . . have broken up an alleged marijuana-trafficking organization that was using Colorado’s medical-marijuana laws as cover.” (See “Marijuana growers create smokescreen for trafficking ring.”)

As “law-and-order” types revel in their pointless little “victory,” I ask small-government types to consider:
How much tax money was spent on this?
Where else could that money have been spent?
What could you have done with your share of that money?
How much money could the state make by taxing the sale of marijuana?
It is hypocritical to profess a belief in individual liberty, limited government and personal responsibility and at the same time advocate the use of government resources – and force – to stop marijuana growers.
The war against marijuana is based on the belief that individuals should not have liberty, that big government is necessary to impose public policy for the “common good” and that people are too stupid to be personally responsible.

Is there any other conclusion to be drawn except that a belief in criminalizing marijuana is antithetical to the liberty movement?
If not, please help me understand.









Thomas Jefferson on those useless paper phone books we all throw away.

It is the time of year when several unwanted, large phone books covered with refrigerator magnets start arriving on our door steps.
Some say the government needs to step in and stop the waste of the unwanted delivery of phone books. You may have heard the indignant refrain: “There oughtta be a law! We need to BAN the delivery of these unwanted and wasteful phone books!”
Surprisingly enough, however, no government action is required.
As the ad salesmen for the phone books continue to pitch their delivery numbers when they call on local business owners, the potential ad buyers will say:

“Yeah, you deliver a gazillion phone books, but none of these people you deliver to actually LOOK at the books. Most just throw them away the same day you deliver them. (The more environmentally-minded will, of course, recycle them). In any event, they ain’t being read. They ain’t bein’ looked at. I’m not going to spend my ad budget on your soon-to-be-extinct, useless paper phone books. I’m sorry, but I have an appointment with a Search Engine Optimization guy, followed by a Google Ads and Facebook advertising expert coming over now. Please excuse me.”

The paper phone book will soon be in the same category as the eight-track tape.
Until then, I’ll deal with throwing them away. I do not want the government banning them or mandating some “opt out” process overseen and administered by the Department of Unwanted Phone Books, with accompanying regulators and a schedule of fines and penalties for those that try to skirt the ban or regulatory scheme.
Picking them up off our front porch and throwing them away is annoying. It is inconvenient.
Surprisingly enough, Thomas Jefferson had something to say on the topic of unwanted phone books. He said, “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.”
As usual, he was right.

Postscript: A Facebook commenter noted that she did not want people leaving litter on her property. Fair point. I responded thusly:

Fair enough. Trespassing and littering laws already exist. It is up to you if it’s worth the hassle of enforcing the existing laws.”

Come meet the candidates!

The Sumner County group will be meeting this month with candidates for Tennessee Senate District 18. This is a special election and the early voting in the primary starts this week.

Join us on January 6th from 6-8PM at Logan’s Roadhouse 1007 Village Green Crossing , Gallatin, TN
(At hwy 31 and hwy 109)

We have invited all of the candidates for TN Senate District 18 to join us for this event so it’s a good time to meet our next State Senator and ask them your questions.  Frank Congdon, Joe Warren Jones, Jeff Stromatt and Kerry Roberts attending, I expect others to respond soon.
Of course anyone can join us anytime… so bring your friends and tell your neighbors. It’s a social gathering, come for the whole time or just drop in for a bit .

A Political Mock Debate: Where Anyone is Welcome to Participate!

Are you a defender of freedom wishing to enhance your communication skills when it comes to promoting America’s founding principles?

Well there is no better way than to practice! So why not do it with friends before you attempt to make your case to others?

Liberty on the Rocks Denver will be hosting a political mock debate this Wednesday (tomorrow) to help our members and guests become better advocates for freedom by sharpening their communication skills. The “debate” will be friendly in nature, and will be made up of two teams and two to three judges. There will be 3-5 topics discussed (see below) and the goal will be to get members of both teams to consider how they would respond to these principles, as well as how the other side would.

Anyone is welcome to join us for this special pre-meeting from 6-7PM in the back room of Choppers Sports Grill. Whether you’d like to participate as a debater, a judge or a member of the audience – we hope you will attend!

If you would like to participate, please sign up here.